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Title: Use of dyes
Post by: walker on July 22, 2013, 06:46:34 PM
I was told by older tech I work with that you can't use dyes on residential air conditioners to help locate leaks in the system.  I'm just wondering if he is full of bs or this is true?
Title: Re: Use of dyes
Post by: 99blacksi on July 23, 2013, 05:30:37 AM
I say BS. I use them and they're great, you still need a sniffer for the areas where it's just gas but combined you'll have no problem finding any leak.
This is what I use http://spectroline.drupalgardens.com/node/1221
Title: Re: Use of dyes
Post by: walker on July 23, 2013, 07:52:35 AM
I have a yellow jacket sniffer, but I find it useless sometimes because it has so many false alarms. So I usually just pump up units full of nitrogen and soap everything to find the leak. But sometimes that doesn't even work and that's why I wanted to try the dye.
Title: Re: Use of dyes
Post by: Admin on July 23, 2013, 09:15:28 AM
I've really lost faith in using nitrogen to pressure test AC systems.  I have pumped 300+ psi of nitrogen and see no signs of a leak yet at the same time can soap the schrader valve on the a-coil and see it leaking.

Dye is too messy and I have never used a sniffer.  I just look for signs of oil.  I believe the best way to leak check is using a vacuum pump and micron gauge.
Title: Re: Use of dyes
Post by: walker on July 23, 2013, 04:00:44 PM
finding the presence of a leak i have no problem, i usually do the vacuum gauge thing, its pin pointing where the leak is that is troublesome sometimes, and maybe using the dye could help me when i cant seem to find where its coming from.  Also is it possible that the A-coil is only leaking in the summer when it gets heated up by the furnace??
Title: Re: Use of dyes
Post by: rmuntz on July 23, 2013, 05:30:40 PM
Sometimes the best method of leak detecting is persistence. One way is not necessarily better than an other depending on the circumstances.
I honestly have to say the best method I've found is ultrasonic....problem is I can't afford one.
Title: Re: Use of dyes
Post by: walker on July 24, 2013, 10:57:11 PM
Ultrasonic... Sounds expensive!
Title: Re: Use of dyes
Post by: Admin on July 25, 2013, 05:27:09 AM
http://www.professionalequipment.com/ultrasonic-leak-detectors/

Looks like the price ranges from $400 - $3000.