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Title: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: walker on October 11, 2013, 06:19:14 PM
I'd like to know if it is in the plumbing code that water tanks must have a certain amount of copper pipe coming out of the water tank? I've been told 6" by some techs and 18" by other techs, and some techs have said it doesnt matter, the reason im asking is im thinking of using some of those sharkbite connections that have the fitting and shut off built in to save time.  does these meet the plumbing code requirements? or do i have to a certain length of copper before i can tie in with the sharkbite fittings?

example:
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/18-inch-water-heater-connector-1-2-inch-with-ball-valve/966747

Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: harshal on October 12, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
MOST OF TIMES I HAVE SEEN SOME COPPER LEFT ON BOTH SIDE OF WATER HEATER(I.E. COLD N HOT SIDE)WHERE THEY USE PEX PIPE FOR PLUMBING SYSTEM.HOWEVER NOT SURE ABOUT THE PLUMBING CODE REGARDING THIS.I WOULD CHK THE INSTALL MANUAL FOR SOME INFO,IS THE CONNECTOR NOT PRICY?
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: walker on October 12, 2013, 07:41:18 PM
Yeah its definitely more expensive, but ill pass that cost on to my customer. And the the time it will save me is the real benefit.

I just want to make sure it abides by the code.
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: Admin on October 12, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
There's nothing in the building code, gas code or any installation manual that says copper must be used.  I don't have a plumbing code book, but if a flexible connector can be used on a dishwasher or sink, I don't see why can't be used on a water heater.  I would try to find a 3/4" connector rather than using a 1/2" one.

Most people will use a minimum of 6" of copper when soldering to avoid melting any plastics in the water heater adapters.  Your local codes probably require a mixing valve which would be hard to install without using some copper.
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: 99blacksi on October 13, 2013, 08:35:55 AM
Plus it's always nice to have a bit of copper for grounding clamps
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: walker on October 13, 2013, 11:45:32 AM
Thanks for the advice.

If the rest of the system is pex, having 6" for grounding clamps won't help.

There is already a mixing valve so I just gonna cut-off below that and use these Shark Bite Fittings
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: chewy on October 16, 2013, 06:38:22 PM
Shark bite fittings are the greatest...Nice and fast and easy to work with. Perfectly legal...
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: Tod on October 18, 2013, 06:02:44 AM
The installation instructions may recommend how much should be in copper.
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: Android412 on October 18, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
I install water heaters frequently for work, and was always told the 6" rule, although I'm not sure if it's code...and honestly there are some older homes with very low basements/crawlspaces where its not physically possible.

I was also told you shouldn't use PEX right into the tank, because on conventional draft tanks if it were to back draft at all for any reason, it could melt the PEX and flood the house.
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: walker on October 18, 2013, 07:35:12 PM
Thanks for all the info guys, I'm going to just use the copper for the first 6" just to be safe, and plus it'll be easier to use the barb fitting for the humi with some copper there.
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: Ted Mosby on November 19, 2013, 07:42:39 PM
Are you talking sharkbite tanktop adapters? I know they are easiest up front but in the past year I have had no less than 4 calls for a leak from a sharkbite tanktop adapter. The plastic cracks. I love how easy sharkbite fittings are to use but I won't use the tank tops.
Title: Re: Copper water lines into water tank
Post by: walker on November 19, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
Yeah I did use them to connect to the tank, first time trying it. I'll wait and see if any problems arise in the future. So far so good.