Hey I have rescently obtained my G3 ticket and am looking for work. It seems to me that everyone is looking for a g2 not a g3. How am i supposed to get my foot in the door if no one is looking for a g3. I searched the net, I have even fone through the yellow pages and called all kinds of installation companies. Still no luck. So I am on here looking for any help I can get. I have very little experience in this field as I have helped a friend out with a few of his side jobs. I am ready to bust my butt and gain the valuable experience I seek. If anyone has any leads that would be much appreciated. Durham region preferred but not a deal breaker at all as I have a valid G drivers liscence. Thanks
It took me about 6 months after College before I found a job with a HVAC company. At the time I had a G2-T which was like a G3. I started out as a helper working with a G2 installer and learned about the gas codes. After a couple years I moved into service and started doing furnace cleanings then switched to full service fixing broken down gas appliances.
Don't worry about not having experience. We all started out the same way. We were all green but that's to be expected.
I would visit all the local HVAC wholesalers in your area and look for job postings. You sound eager and hard working and someone will invest in you. Just keep hounding all the service managers with resumes and follow up with phone calls. Don't be afraid to pin your resumes up at the wholesalers.
Good luck!
I'm soon to be writing a G3 myself and know exactly what you mean, only difference is I've worked as an illegal gas technician for a decade and have way more experience than many g2's.
I think the time of season is also crappy for gas technicians, I know my company has piles of fully licensed guys sitting on their asses waiting for work... They're also waiting for the slow pokes from Enbridge to install gas meters.
It's the same thing in my area, job postings for a gas technician are 1 out of 10 that might accept a G3. Even many of the postings for the G2's are just to be "helpers". Not only that, many of the G2 posts also demand the 313d refrigeration ticket on top of it! So even plain old G2 job postings are quite limited. It's a little ridiculous since a G3 is actually allowed to do almost everything under general supervision of a higher ticket holder. But many employers seem to see a G3 as nothing more than a helper. Do you have the ROT forms printed up? They're important for when you do finally get your foot in the door. Just recently, a G3 got in trouble from an inspector while working alone on a site for not having it. The guy had never even heard of it. Many G3's aren't even aware of it.
What is rot? Record of training or something?
My bad, it's actually called: Practical Skills Sign-off sheet. You don't need it when in "direct" supervision with a G2 or G1. But if you're caught doing any of the type of work you're allowed to do within the G3 scope under "general" supervision. Which they tell me a G1 or G2 is a phone call away, then you need this form to show that they've signed off that you're capable and trained well enough to do what you're doing without them hovering over you.
It'll never happen in residential, but on a major jobsite, and commercial/industrial areas, you might get bothered.
Download it and print it up
http://www.tssa.org/CorpLibrary/ArticleFile.asp?Instance=136&ID=B2BF530A1CAA11E3A788000C2922855A
As far as I'm concerned if you are working under the direct supervision of a certificate holder, no certificate is required. At least that is how I interpret O. Reg. 212/01.
You can read the Gaseous Fuels - Ontario Regulation 212/01 - Here (http://www.hvactechgroup.com/article.php/20071004200121769)
QuoteCertificates required for various activities
6. (1) No person shall install, alter, purge, activate, repair, service or remove any appliance, equipment or other thing employed or to be employed in the handling or use of gas unless the person is the holder of a certificate for that purpose. O. Reg. 212/01, s. 6 (1).
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to prevent a person from undertaking duct cleaning if that is the only activity undertaken and the person does not interfere with the appliance, equipment or thing. O. Reg. 212/01, s. 6 (2).
(3) Subsection (1) does not apply to prevent a person without the appropriate certificate from undertaking any of the activities mentioned in that subsection in the presence of the holder of the certificate. O. Reg. 212/01, s. 6 (3).
Section 6 Subsection 3 looks like a backdoor to the MTCU's 636G apprenticeship and the TSSA's G3 certification. It's pretty much saying an uncertified person can do the work in the presence of a certificate holder. When the Ministry of Labour comes to site and tries to fine your labourer, for working without certification or an apprenticeship, refer them to O. Reg 212/01 Section 6 (3).
Haha. Wow. I never noticed that before and I agree with what you're saying. The whole time I've been taught I'm not even allowed to hold a G2's tool box without a license.
Direct Supervision is not the same as General Supervision, this is what I learned recently. Direct means your Supervision is right there on the job with you General means a phone call away.
Regards