Hi Guys
My son called the TSSA on Friday to be told he was unsuccessfull with his G2 exam. He now has to wait four weeks to receive his paperwork in the post to find out his percentage.
Every person (including myself) to have sat the G2 have remarked that there was a lot of stuff in there that was not covered by the tuition or the code books or any paperwork that was handed out.
Surely the TSSA who are responsible for marking the papers are aware of the low pass rate amongst students.
It must be obvious that the tuition is not properly geared up properly for the exam.
When you receive you unsuccessfull percentage you have no idea where you went wrong. How can this be?
Most guys at the start of ther working life in the HVAC field will only be involved in a small scope of work.
The system that works elsewhere is to do with gas safety first, testing, purging, grounding and materials. This is followed by separate modules for different appliances eg boilers, furnaces, hot water tanks, tankless etc, with a licence to cover each one. In this way become confident with items they regularly work on and will leave anything that are not covered for.
As it is now guys may be tempted to work on items they have not seen before or for a while.
I think I have let of enough steam for now and should like to hear your thoughts.
Tod
Sorry for your son. At least now he may have a better idea of what he needs to know.
In your a opinion is this a problem with the TSSA requirements or the school he went to? Or a combination of both?
Are you able to tell us where he took the course?
As far as licensing being equipment specific, I don't know that could also get confusing. The 400k split between Gas1 and Gas2 has been that way forever.
Guess I am of no help, but I feel for anyone who tries hard and doesn't pass.
Don't let him give up
Regards, Mike
I know on the first day I was taking the g3 course. The teacher made it clear how only half the full-time students successfully pass. While 75% of part-time students pass.
For full-time students, that's a pretty lousy number. I haven't taken the G2, but after having done the G3, I noticed things on the test that were not covered; and a decent chunk of questions that don't exist in the modules, but were semi-explained by the teacher.
They shouldn't have questions on the test that doesn't exist in the learning material.
if you passed the g3 you should have no problem with the g2, in my opinion the g2 test was by far easier than the g3 exam. 30% of the questions can simply just be looked up in the code book, 50% of the questions we covered in the modules, and the remaining 20% of the questions can be answered correctly by using what you've learned in the modules and using your brain to be able to determine the correct answers are. Most people fail because the entire schooling is an absolute cake walk until you take this test. If you simply just study for a few hours before the test you shuldnt have an issue with passing it. Im glad a lot of people fail because if you cant pass that test you shouldnt be out there blowing things up.
Hi Viking
Like I said before there was a chunk of questions that had not been covered in any way, shape or form. The school I went to had made there own folder to cover the modules, I did not find out that this was not the official paperwork until after the exam. The school had previously made up there own exam and marked it. The TSSA stopped that. The folder was made up to get you through there exam.
From my understanding the pass rate from my class was less than ten per cent.
The younger guys are looking at there cell phones and the older guys are stressed out of there brains about failing.
Porcupinepuffer, none of the colleges mentioned success rates, my lad went to George Brown, the in class time was generally less than fifty percent of what it should be, the lecturer was always on a mission to get out the door. I have asked on here before about colleges posting there pass rates. Not gonna happen! Having said that the young lad put in a lot of time in the evenings and weekends, it was not for lack of trying.
Walker, we had a lad that got ninety six per cent in the G3 but failed the G2. He was an intelligent lad, asked the right questions, so how can that be? As I said there was a lot of questions not covered anywhere.
As for 'blowing things up' this is where purging, tightness testing and check sheets come to play, we had young lads in a hurry checking boxes that could not happen in the type of unit they fitted, they are rushing to get finished to get home or worried the boss will not be happy with the time they are taking.
Like the song says 'one piece at a time' works better.
Tod