Well I knew it would happen sooner than later. College inspector showed up on one of the install sites. The lead hand had his G2 and was a signed apprentice for over 8 years never followed through on schooling. His helper had no tickets. They headed to the shop and all hell broke loose. They laid down the law. They will return to check everyone's tickets.
Was the inspector looking for 313 or G2/G3 certificates?
He wanted to see everything. 313. ODP,G2/G3. The helper only had his ODP. He is now not allowed to be a helper. Going to be the new duct cleaners helper. We have 6 guys laid off that where going to be back next week to start AC tune ups. Not one of them has a 313. So they can't touch the AC units. Going to get interesting.
Found out this morning they even asked for their driver licenses. So the crew who got stopped where pulling out of shop this morning to go an do 2 installs of furnaces but no AC. Will find out more as it unfolds.
Do they even have any sort of jurisdiction to be asking for driver's license? what else do they want to see high school diploma's??
They knocked on the customers door and asked if they could come in to see the install crew. The customer was very upset when she found out what they where up to. We have a meeting Next week to find out what is going on.
They probably wanted to see a drivers license for identification purposes. They can't do anything to someone working without certification doing gas work, as long as that person is under the direct supervision of a certificate holder. There is no loop hole around the 313 certification though. The helper should have been signed up as an apprentice.
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Ok this is getting more interesting. One of the techs called the college to find out what's going on. The company applied for 5 application for apprentices. One being the install Supervisor. They used techs tickets to apply. We knew nothing of it. So we are not sure yet who's tickets have being used.
In order for your company to sign up 5 apprentices they would need to have 10 journeymen. It sounds like the company might be okay if the applications are approved. Does your company do mainly retail or new construction? I wonder why the OCOT inspectors were sniffing around.
I think someone called the college on the company. The crew where on a dead end street in Hamilton the truck could not been seen unless they followed them. As far as the amount of tickets used they did use the ten tickets. The issue was that they never asked the ticket holders if they could use their ticket. Not sure if that is the custom way of doing it. The one set was used on a Supervisior who doesn't wrench anymore. Leaving a tech without the chance to get his.
I had one show up while was doing a maintance asked to see my certificates and I show him ,all good was there working on the furnace that's all I showed him my G2, he had a shit load of info as well ,it 's good in away protects the homeowner
i had them all over me in the winter while doing duct work.nice enough pair of huckleberrys and since im a licenced sheet metal worker,there were no issues.they did however go into our shop and do a full audit on every employee.they were very thorough.
Quote from: Admin on May 08, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
They can't do anything to someone working without certification doing gas work, as long as that person is under the direct supervision of a certificate holder.
Is this still true?
Actually I got clarification about O. Reg 212/01 Section 6(3).
Quote(3) Subsection (1) does not apply to prevent a person without the appropriate certificate from undertaking any of the activities mentioned in that subsection in the presence of the holder of the certificate. O. Reg. 212/01, s. 6 (3).
The person they describe as not having the appropriate certification must still hold a G3 certificate.
Admin: That website with the petition takes me to a page filled with chinese ads.
I tested the link from a couple different browsers and multiple devices and they all seemed to connect to the petition website. I attached a picture of the page I see.
I had an incident with the ocot a bit ago on a side job where I was doing a furnace at my buddies house. The guy asked for my g2 and I told him to leave and my buddy told him to get off the property. Which he did. My g2 is through tssa not ocot which I mentioned to him and he didn't say anything. I have a feeling he was driving by and just stopped in. He didn't ask for anything else. One of my contractor buddies had a customer call in to the ocot about ductwork that he had done (I mentioned it in a previous post on another thread a while ago and can't remember exactly which one). Long story short he was either let off with a warning or fined like $75. Honestly, if that's what the penalties are for working unlicensed, what's the point of getting it? Just tack on an extra $100 to the job and you will be covered at worst case! Lol.
Hahaha. OCOT guy actually asked for your G2 license? I would have been asking plenty of questions after that! I had something similar situation in residential where I was just hanging out at the back of a trailer with the condenser on the road. OCOT happened to be driving by and stopped. Only asked about the proper license for the air conditioning. Annoyed me that he was then talking with the customer of the residence. Made me feel like a little kid being checked up on by my Daddy to make sure I'm doing things right. Made the customer have doubts about what kind of fools he had doing the job.