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Title: Last to touch rule
Post by: Mmtc79 on January 23, 2019, 08:26:32 PM
Hey guys hope all is well !
I'm getting asked about last to touch is now responsible !  Or last fitter on site is liable ?

Example gas tech goes to install new appliance upon completion he gives a check of all other gas pipes , venting and other appliances to confirm all is up to code
He finds some issues ? Do you walk away cause you did not touch that portion of system or appliance or do you tag with appropriate a or b tag ? I know the correct answer but curious to see the reply's to the question will be

Cheers
Title: Re: Last to touch rule
Post by: Admin on January 24, 2019, 08:55:18 AM
I would always protect myself and the client and issue an immediate or non immediate warning tag, as per O.Reg 212/01.
Title: Re: Last to touch rule
Post by: Porcupinepuffer on January 24, 2019, 05:51:29 PM
It's what's within your line of sight in relation to where you're working. You're not required to do a complete inspection of all appliances within the dwelling. If you were at a residence just to change a water heater, you wouldn't be responsible as the last person on site if a fireplace in the master bedroom on the second floor was a major hazard that you could only identify by actually being in that room.
Title: Re: Last to touch rule
Post by: Attavior on January 25, 2019, 07:06:21 AM
Seasonal boiler check requires you to check. 


7.1.12.1
During each heating season effective October 15th to April 30th when a certified G1, G2, G3 or GUT gas technician enters a residential building intended for one or two single families to carry out service, maintenance and/or emergency response work within the scope of his/her certificate, the gas technician shall:
Title: Re: Last to touch rule
Post by: Hvacpimp on February 03, 2019, 12:18:48 AM
Quote from: Attavior on January 25, 2019, 07:06:21 AM
Seasonal boiler check requires you to check. 


7.1.12.1
During each heating season effective October 15th to April 30th when a certified G1, G2, G3 or GUT gas technician enters a residential building intended for one or two single families to carry out service, maintenance and/or emergency response work within the scope of his/her certificate, the gas technician shall:
Is this even what we are talking about??? Are you confused?? What does the annual boiler inspection have anything to do with the question?
Porcupinepuffer is right but you better believe that if something did happen you would be questioned for it but probably wouldn't get orders for it.  Another rule of thumb is if it has been worked on in the last 6 months. Believe me, when I have to write a report, one of the first questions tssa asks is the 6 month rule.
Title: Re: Last to touch rule
Post by: Attavior on February 03, 2019, 06:51:22 AM
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Title: Re: Last to touch rule
Post by: Porcupinepuffer on February 03, 2019, 09:05:05 AM
Actually, that natural draft boiler requirement does directly relate. I think it would around mid-2000's they sent out the memo for any gas tech who's last on site at a residence with a natural draft boiler to make sure it's tagged with the annual inspection. The spillage of neglected boilers was a big issue. Putting it on our shoulders was the solution.
Title: Re: Last to touch rule
Post by: Hvacpimp on February 08, 2019, 12:37:12 AM
Sorry I didn't read it right because I was half in the bag when I responded. It all comes down to the 6 month rule. The natural draft boiler clause that was pointed out was an example. We could go on for hours like that. Broken vent, leaking union, etc. As you said before line of sight. Me personally, when I was an installer, if I was doing a fireplace, I would take a quick look at the furnace. Takes 2 seconds and could save grief. It's all luck and common sense.