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Title: Red tag: rating plate
Post by: Sergroum on January 18, 2021, 01:31:08 PM
Heeey, folks.


So many of you have working on rooftop units. And many of you have seen their rating plate wear out to nothing. It's a fact of life. You can see where the rating plate used to be, but it's unreadable.


Someone red tagged the rooftop for it. All six of them. Does anyone have any clue on how would one clear it? I doubt the manufacturer will place new rating plates as they'll need to be thoroughly and fully inspected. At least the tech support said they will not do it.  Is that what we'll end up needing to do? Run the manifold and test against specs? Then what? Needless to say, the units themselves are working fine.
Title: Re: Red tag: rating plate
Post by: tenletters on January 18, 2021, 06:14:18 PM
What kind of person tags a unit for that let alone 6 of them? That's the worst kind of person.

I had this question a couple of years back with Carrier. They said under no circumstances would they replace them. This is just what the tech told me. But my unit wasn't tagged. So you might have a little more luck.
Title: Re: Red tag: rating plate
Post by: Admin on January 18, 2021, 07:23:55 PM
I always found York had the worst rating plates for this.

Only Clause 7.2.4.10 mentions needing a rating plate and that only applies to a stationary engine or turbine.

I understand the rating plate bears the certification marking and is required on all appliances, but that is a ridiculous warning tag.

I would tell the client to contact the gas distributor and they likely have records showing the inspection passed and may list the make and model number.  Download the manual and keep the record of inspection with it and clear the warning tag.  Or let the client sort it out with the distributor and the TSSA.  I doubt very much if they would force the owner to replace 6 rooftops.
Title: Re: Red tag: rating plate
Post by: tenletters on January 19, 2021, 05:38:32 AM
Quote from: Admin on January 18, 2021, 07:23:55 PM

I would tell the client to contact the gas distributor and they likely have records showing the inspection passed and may list the make and model number.

Plus the model and serial is usually on one or two other stickers inside the unit as well
Title: Re: Red tag: rating plate
Post by: Hgye on January 19, 2021, 06:57:36 AM
We usually write the m/s on the inside of the unit for this very reason.
Title: Re: Red tag: rating plate
Post by: NoDIY on January 22, 2021, 07:25:29 PM
Its a common enough warning tag..
Especially with cooking equipment.
Manufacturers will provide new rating plates.

On new construction, fireplace rating plates go missing alot

A few years ago Goodman/Amana furnace rating plates where falling off the door before they where ever inspected(new construction)

Manufacturers should make more effort to protect those rating plates.And locate them inside the unit.
Title: Re: Red tag: rating plate
Post by: Sergroum on January 23, 2021, 08:57:26 PM
They should be visible without use of tools. Maybe some version of how fireplaces are handling it.
Title: Re: Red tag: rating plate
Post by: tenletters on January 24, 2021, 08:43:18 AM
Quote from: NoDIY on January 22, 2021, 07:25:29 PM
Its a common enough warning tag..
Especially with cooking equipment.
Manufacturers will provide new rating plates.

On new construction, fireplace rating plates go missing alot


Where are you located? I have a very different experience.

How many warning tags for this have you run into in the last year to consider it common?

I don't do cooking equipment so i cannot comment on it being common there as well.

Which manufacturers have you spoken with? Carrier told me no for commercial. A co-worker talked with York for residential about 4 years ago. They wouldn't give him one.

We do new construction too. Never seen one go missing, although I can see how it can happen with the get in and out as fast as possible mentality.